Old Record Jointer plane...

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prd1

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Joined: Jul. 11 2007

Old Record Jointer plane...

I've been donated a Record 07 SS jointer plane. As far as I can gather, it's from pre-1947 (If anyone is intersted in tools I can provide further details or maybe take some photographs).

It has arrived in its original, (but deteriorated) blue covered strawbound box with greasproof paper packing - I've been told that it's not been used for at least 50 years but 3 years ago was found in a garage in perfect condition where the greaseproof packaging was removed - it has rusted a bit since but is still at the point of 'early rust spots' rather than 'total deterioration'. The sole has only relatively light pitting.

I want to restore this tool to a workable condition - I am used to regularly maintaining my tools with only fairly light maintenance rather than restoring old tools but I want to catch the onset or rust before it becomes an issues.

What would you recommend as the first steps - something like scotchbrite or maybe something more abrasive such as wire wool?

Appreciate any comments from you tool lovers...

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oregon47

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RE: Old Record Jointer plane... (in reply to prd1)

I always start out by completely taking them apart and removing what rust I can with navel jelly. The jelly usually gets all the rust. Then move on to tune-up. There are lots of great resources for tool junkies. This is one of my favorite lists of links:

http://www.cianperez.com/Wood/WoodDocs/Wood_How_To/INDEX_How_To.htm

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2011 4:07:09

prd1

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Joined: Jul. 11 2007

RE: Old Record Jointer plane... (in reply to oregon47)

Thanks for the links - a lot to get through there!!!

I've been using "the handplane book" by Garrett Hack as a reference - good reading while I'm stuck on a train.

I've dismantled and cleaned the plane as a starting point - there's no rusting on the frog and only a couple of light spots on the iron and cap. The blue paint is flaking at the leading and trailing edges but that's something that I will leave. The rosewood handles are in good condition - still tight with no signs of shrinking.

The last plane that I had to do a lot of work on was an ANANT block plane - I think they're made in India? I bought it new from a ferreteria in Atocha just across from the Conde shop (is that a real Conde shop?) - the sole was slightly twisted and took a lot of tuning but when finished it was a fantastic 10 Euro tool - it gives consistantly great results, keeps an edge and feels good in the hand - lively and springy???

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 6 2011 21:18:47

prd1

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RE: Old Record Jointer plane... (in reply to prd1)

I've removed all the rust from the plane and used a glass plate with aluminium oxide paper to flatten the sole to a reasonable degree. There are now only a few slightly discoloured blemishes from the anti-oxident left on the sides of the body.

I've lapped and sharpened the blade on a set of waterstones (not everyone's cup of tea?) down to 6000 grit.

I now need to lap the sole ready for use. I'm considering a Veritas lapping plate but it's only 12" long (the plane is 22"long).

...anybody used one of these lapping plates?

...am I going to run into problems lapping a 22" plane on a 12" plate?

Cheers

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 19:50:25

sean65

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RE: Old Record Jointer plane... (in reply to prd1)

quote:

I now need to lap the sole ready for use. I'm considering a Veritas lapping plate but it's only 12" long (the plane is 22"long).

...anybody used one of these lapping plates?

...am I going to run into problems lapping a 22" plane on a 12" plate?

Cheers

Depending how out of shape the sole is, this could well take up to 30 hours or more of lapping. The surface you choose would have to be larger that the plane if you want absolute flatness. You'd really need to do the lapping on a perfectly flat cast table. The last time I flattened a sole I used the cast table on a planner/jointer machine with some 180grit clued to the surface.

The Veritas is way too small. Maybe a 45" length of granite would do the trick.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2011 21:08:13