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Reinhardt

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2 Chord Progressions...

What is some good scales to play over the following Chord progressions:
Am, Cmaj, Dm, Emaj (i play A Melodic Minor (Descending) Scale but dont get a good improv sound from it.
And
Em, Am, Cmaj, Bmaj(bar chords) (same as above only in E Melodic Minor (Descending) Scale

Im looking for a Spanish/Middle eastern sound?
If you guys can maybe tell me the exact scale to play over it cuz my theory is abit limited.

I would really appreciate a response
Thanks!
Reinhardt

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 1:53:24

akatune

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to Reinhardt)

phrygian. Also, research the bedouin scale for oud.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 2:33:48

Reinhardt

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to akatune)

ok, what phrygian scale do i play over Aminor and Eminor?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 5:34:44

beno

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to Reinhardt)

I think the first progression should work with A harmonic minor, but it depends what you want.....

http://www.all-guitar-chords.com/guitar_scales.php

here's a link, where You can add progressions, or just single chords to find a scale, and vice-versa...

hope that helps

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 6:56:19

Ricardo

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to Reinhardt)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Reinhardt

What is some good scales to play over the following Chord progressions:
Am, Cmaj, Dm, Emaj (i play A Melodic Minor (Descending) Scale but dont get a good improv sound from it.
And
Em, Am, Cmaj, Bmaj(bar chords) (same as above only in E Melodic Minor (Descending) Scale

Im looking for a Spanish/Middle eastern sound?
If you guys can maybe tell me the exact scale to play over it cuz my theory is abit limited.

I would really appreciate a response
Thanks!
Reinhardt

First one A natural minor relates the first 3 chords, then you have A harmonic minor with the raised 7th. Avoid A melodic minor with raised 6 for now.

The second one is the same concept in E minor. Raised 7th only on the B chord (D# note is your target).

But to do a nice melodic thing over the chords, it is better to focus on each chord as a separate entity. It is more advanced concept too. So get comfy with the above idea first. Then try:

A Aeolian or Dorian (ABCDEFG, or ABCDEF#G)
C Ionian, or lydian, or mixolydian (CEFGAB, CEF#GAB, or CEFGABb)
D aeolian or Dorian (DEFGABb, or DEFGAB)
E phrygian dominant (EFG#ABCD)

There are some more advanced concepts that can be applied, and you can mix up those scales in each chord as long as you have enough rhythmic TIME to do it. The E progression is actually different unless you made a mistake.

E aeolian or dorian (EF#GABCD, or EF#GABC#D)
A aeolian or dorian (see above)
C lydian or lydian dominant (CEF#GAB, or CEF#GABb) notice the second scale is a mix of the lydian and mixolydian from earlier. That one has a nicer pull to B chord up next.
B phrygian dominant (BCD#EF#GA)

The lydian dominant scale is the 4th mode of melodic minor. So you are using the G melodic minor over the C chord.

Now if you did the same progression in A (not what you wrote earlier) you could use F lydian dominant to resolve to E phyrgian. I was gonna write that as a sub for your Dminor chord, but thought to wait in case you did mean 2 DIFFERENT type of progressions as you wrote.

Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 7:22:17

Reinhardt

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to Ricardo)

Wow thx for the reply guys, Didnt i mention i was abit limited on my theory? but screw that i need to learn this stuff!
This is called "understand modes" right?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 9:07:46

Chiste de Gales

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to Reinhardt)

For the key of E Phrygian, use this chart. This is the "natural" mode, not Harmonic Phrygian

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 12:28:40

Ron.M

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to Reinhardt)

quote:

Im looking for a Spanish/Middle eastern sound?
If you guys can maybe tell me the exact scale to play over it cuz my theory is abit limited.

Reinhardt...I'm honestly not trying to be smart or funny or anything here...but what's wrong with just using your ear?

I mean..when I'm driving, I don't need an indicator or computer voice to tell me to turn the steering wheel when the road has a bend in it?

Or maybe I'm just completely missing the finer points of guitar playing here?

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 12:39:56

akatune

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RE: 2 Chord Progressions... (in reply to Reinhardt)

Ubderstood. that's why i just suggest playing the phrygian starting with the root note at the root chord. In A, start phrygian with A as tonic, etc. Not nearly as deep or educated as some of the other great posts. But a simple place to start.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 26 2010 16:07:11