UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENTE SANCHIS GUITAR

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JBASHORUN

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UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENTE SA...

Hi everyone,
I came across this unusual Vicente Sanchis guitar and was wondering what it would sound like... has anyone actually heard or played something similar? It has a fretboard that extends right across the soundholes!

The guitar costs $5000, and the review I read stated that the : "unique design creates a larger area of soundboard below the soundholes than traditional designs and produces a distinctive sound."

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2005 17:23:16

TANúñez

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From: TEXAS

RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Call me a traditionalist but is there REALLY a need for a guitar like this? two sound holes? I personally can think of several ways to get more out of a guitar without have to make it ugly

I have never gotten into guitars that feature double soundholes, soundports, soundholes in unusual places, extra frets, etc.etc. IMO, the guitar is already a beautiful instrument. No need to re-invent it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2005 18:00:17

Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

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It has a fretboard that extends right across the soundholes!

I'd like to see someone play those frets

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2005 19:05:21

nhills

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Joined: Jul. 13 2003
From: West Des Moines, IA USA

RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to TANúñez)

Actually, this is "traditional" - in a way. Simplicio, among others, tried this in the 1920's.
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Norman

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2005 20:43:38

Ron.M

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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland

RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Why does this guitar put me in mind of John Major?

Anyway folks..the Dundee Guitar Festival will be swinging into action tomorrow.
I'm only sorry that I can't be there with the maestro John Filmore and Jim Opfer and Mike Holmes and others.
Anyway, I'm going down early Saturday morning and will meet them then...and also... in the evening...Un Concierto by the great Gerardo Nuñez!!!
Looking forward to it!!!

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2005 21:09:45

Guest

RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

I like this design. I prefer it to the one where you put thesound hole to one of the sides. The idea is to make a larger vibrating area. I have no idea how it sounds.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 19 2005 21:57:07

el ted

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RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

No use to me, I have a habit of using using golpe high up on the right side of the guitar. With this one I would be tapping fresh air! I dare one of you to buy one and tell the rest of us what it's like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 20 2005 7:19:58

Doitsujin

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RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

I think, good flamenco-guitars of today are perfect. Only some very tiny changes would make it a micro-bit better.
Such a guitar is like a designer-car. Good looking, but no one needs it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 20 2005 14:11:48

carl.herland

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RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

i found this thread on the net. I actually have a 1998 model of the guitar (Vicente Sanchis Dos Bocas). The sound is different, very deep and resonant, yet light on trebles. If you play for example a B note on the G string or A on Low E string it will resonate for as long as you like.
I purchased mine in 1998 at Casa de la Guitarra in Torre Vieja in Alicante, Spain. They had the full range of pre-Badia vicente sanchis guitars and I ended up with this one. Though the one you have stumbled across is rather expensive, I paid about USD900,- So I Think he made a fair profit..

Keep buying non CNC machined guitars!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 4 2007 18:36:48

carl.herland

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RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to Escribano)

quote:

I'd like to see someone play those frets

Just the same as playing anything above 12th fret on a normal nylon stringer

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 4 2007 18:38:11

jrabbani

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From: Los Angeles

RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

bash did you find this on ron fernandez' site by chance?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 9 2007 1:03:42

bernd

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RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

To me it´s just an eye catcher. I don´t like such mickey mouse design.

4 years ago when I visited their workshop and bought some of their guitars for my students in late autumn it was visible that their guitars are not made very properly. As in next january I phoned to them asking for the new price list they told me the prices have risen a little bit. After receiving the list the prices had risen between 43 and 95%. For that quality in this price range no one needs a Vicente Sanchís anymore.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 9 2007 13:18:53

a_arnold

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RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to Guest)

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I have no idea how it sounds.

Mike Kasha (a physicist here at Florida State U) spent a lot of time analyzing patterns of vibration in guitar tops, working with a luthier to develop new designs of bracing and soundhole that optimize projection while maintaining treble/bass balance, and his guitars have a similar sound hole, but only on one side (treble). I'd say his are definitely the loudest nylon-strung guitars I've ever heard, but some (classical guitarists) say they sound a bit brittle and metallic. For flamenco, that seems a plus to me, but I agree with Tom on the beauty of the traditional design. Even cutaways seem gimmicky to me.

I don't know if Kasha and his luthier ever made a flamenco.

Anyway, I bet this Sanchis is loud for the audience -- maybe no difference for the player.

Mike Kasha is still alive, by the way (google him), and his guitars sell for a LOT. Unfortunately, he is not a luthier, and the guy he used to work with has passed away, so they aren't being made any more. I've heard Kasha is happy to give his designs to anyone who asks, though. He'd probably be glad to work with another luthier if someone approached him.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 12 2007 20:52:59

JBASHORUN

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 17 2007 21:06:28

Fitna A.

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From: The Netherlands

RE: UNUSUAL DOUBLE SOUNDHOLED VICENT... (in reply to bernd)

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ORIGINAL: bernd

For that quality in this price range no one needs a Vicente Sanchís anymore.

I heard something like this when I visited a shop with expertise in flamenco's in Amsterdam for a reperation on my Vicente Sanchis. They've had a long time this guitars in stock but he told that this workshop recently makes a mess of it while other workshops can deliver better quility for less. They've removed them from their collection.

I have a student model (33F) with ordinary looks but I think the more expensive models are not the most beautifull in town. Check the headstock

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 18 2007 8:19:33