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Ron.M

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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland

Blues and Flamenco

I just mentioned in another post (from a paper by John Slobada) about Martin Scoserse's series of films about the Blues, and how to me, there seemed to be so many parallels with Flamenco.
One thing that made me laugh was Georgie Fame's story about going to the Southern United States and finally getting a chance to play with authentic Blues singers.
He said that it was a pretty unsettling experience for him since these guys would suddenly change chords in unusual places and sometimes cut the 12 bars short.
He said " It was really hard to keep up with them...I mean these guys weren't observing the rules....But I wasn't going to tell them they were wrong!"

Sound familiar?

LOL!

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 23 2004 17:09:27

Miguel de Maria

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From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: Blues and Flamenco (in reply to Ron.M)

That's good. Well, it's all folk music, guys, this isn't science.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 23 2004 20:28:18

Ron.M

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From: Scotland

RE: Blues and Flamenco (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

quote:

Well, it's all folk music

Definition of English Folk singers...

"People who sing through the nose by ear" (Billy Connolley)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2004 10:29:25

Kate

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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: Blues and Flamenco (in reply to Ron.M)

Isaw a great programme with Keith Richards playing with Chuck Berry. At first Richards looked like a kid in a fairground. Berry kept telling Richards what to play and Richards kept argueing that he knew the chords off by heart and had played them all his life, copied them note for note from Berry's records. Berry looked at him in such a way I felt embarrassed for him.

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2004 12:34:54

Ron.M

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From: Scotland

RE: Blues and Flamenco (in reply to Kate)

Yeah Kate,
I saw the same programme. Keith Richards kept turning down Chuck's amp, saying that it was too loud and the balance wasn't right, and Chuck kept turning it back up again, saying it was his amp and he'll set it at any level he wants to!
He was getting pretty annoyed!
Funny stuff.

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2004 15:36:43

Jim Opfer

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Joined: Jul. 19 2003
From: Glasgow, Scotland.

RE: Blues and Flamenco (in reply to Ron.M)

Ron,
I did a bit of reading in prep for a gig last Sunday.
I flicked through the sleve notes of some LP's I've got and read that when the K+Q of Spain forced the Moors out, one of the things they also did was to stop the Gitanos from leaving Andalucia.
I guess they were just kept captive, I mean I don't know exactly how this was enforced, but It made me thing that it must have been a bit like Afro Americans back then, being slave labour and made to work in the fields (or tin mines in Tierra Minera).
It sort of makes a neat comparison regarding your parallel with Blues and Flamenco.
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2004 12:31:11

Richard Jernigan

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From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: Blues and Flamenco (in reply to Ron.M)

...and we have on record (Holwlin' Wolf, The London Sessions) Wolf's failed attempt to teach the accompaniment of Li'l Red Rooster to Eric Clapton...."Nawww, man---you gotta stop at the top,...like this...."

Instead of Wolf's fakey rhythm they end up playing some square white boy stuff.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2004 21:33:06