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a_arnold

 

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oldest known recording of flamenco? 
Anyone know which is the oldest known recording of flamenco?

I've got Ramon Montoya's 33.33 LP which (if my French is right) was remastered from a 78 recorded in 1936, which would have been done on gut strings if the date is correct.

Other than that, I have one of Melchor de Marchena in 1959 that was remastered to CD. I think Marchena's picado, by the way, was a fast as anyone alive today. Amazing.

Nothing between.

Surely someone has older recordings than that? Anyone?

I'm really interested in learning more about how flamenco has evolved -- insofar as that can be determined. My teacher (Carlos Ramos) was a stickler for tradition, but in his LP I can already hear a difference between him and his teacher (Ramon Montoya). And Sabicas, another of Montoya's students, pushed the envelope much further (OK, not as far as PDL did with Fusions, but still, the music has definitely changed.)

Any historians out there?

Tony Arnold
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nhills

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RE: oldest known recording of flamenco? (in reply to a_arnold) 
I think the oldest known is of Juan Breva sometime around 1890. I have it somewhere, but can't find it at the moment.

I have a CD of cante from 1895 to 1902 (dating isn't any more precise) with guitar by Miguel Borrull and El Campanero. These recordings are from the Edison wax cylinder days. Don't know anything about the latter, but Borrull was quite influential.

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a_arnold

 

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RE: oldest known recording of flamenco? (in reply to a_arnold) 
wow. Has the Juan Breva been remastered to CD?
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RE: oldest known recording of flamenco? (in reply to a_arnold) 
i also have one of theses series with old cante, very early 1900. Must be old strings on that one

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