Villa Rosa name scam

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Paul Magnussen

Posts: 1805
Joined: Nov. 8 2010
From: London (living in the Bay Area)

Villa Rosa name scam

There’s a story in today’s Times about Villa Rosa. Briefly:

One of the world’s oldest flamenco venues has become embroiled in a legal battle over its name.

When Ivana Portolés and Antonio Canales took over this year it seemed like the survival of Villa Rosa in Madrid had been secured. It closed during the pandemic and the owners of the building had struggled to find people to run it.

But days after they signed the lease, the new managers found out the name of the venue had been trademarked. Several months later the previous manager, Jesus Rodriguez Cerezal, who owns several bars and restaurants in Madrid, instructed his lawyers to seek compensation for the use of the name.

Portoles told The Times that the amount being sought ran into the hundreds of thousands of euros.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/wanted-a-new-name-for-hemingways-flamenco-haunt-7pgj8lv79

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2022 18:20:14

Ricardo

Posts: 14801
Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Villa Rosa name scam (in reply to Paul Magnussen)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Paul Magnussen

There’s a story in today’s Times about Villa Rosa. Briefly:

One of the world’s oldest flamenco venues has become embroiled in a legal battle over its name.

When Ivana Portolés and Antonio Canales took over this year it seemed like the survival of Villa Rosa in Madrid had been secured. It closed during the pandemic and the owners of the building had struggled to find people to run it.

But days after they signed the lease, the new managers found out the name of the venue had been trademarked. Several months later the previous manager, Jesus Rodriguez Cerezal, who owns several bars and restaurants in Madrid, instructed his lawyers to seek compensation for the use of the name.

Portoles told The Times that the amount being sought ran into the hundreds of thousands of euros.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/wanted-a-new-name-for-hemingways-flamenco-haunt-7pgj8lv79

Just walked by it a few weeks ago. Considered seeing a show. Went to eat around the corner at the excellent Carmela restaurant and ran into gitano Bailaor I have played for and his family. He was in town to see his uncle perform, most likely there. Unfortunately the article you link is forcing login subscribers only to read on. But I remember the big sign says Restaurante Flamenco, they should leave it at that and erase the small lettering of Villa Rosa.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2022 16:23:35

orsonw

Posts: 1934
Joined: Jul. 4 2009
From: London

RE: Villa Rosa name scam (in reply to Paul Magnussen)

It seems after the pandemic there are various permanent closures, re-openings and changes.
e.g. The Madrid 'Cafe Chinitas' closed but now in the same venue the recently opened 'Tablao de Villa'. So maybe the name isn't that easy to fully protect. Or perhaps the new place is something to do with the unscrupulous previous manager of Villa Rosa?

Anyway an excuse to post Gema Moneo, with Farruquito and Alfonso Losa