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NorCalluthier

 

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Ramon Montoya Mineras? 
Hello All,

I have a recording of Dave Jones (David Serva) playing a Mineras. Years ago Chris Carnes said he thought that it was basically Ramon Montoya's. I believe that Ramon is credited with originating the Mineras Toque.

Anyway, I'm looking for Mineras info, tab, recordings etc. and can send along a copy of the 1962 recording of David's if you are interested.

Cheers,

Brian Burns
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Ricardo

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RE: Ramon Montoya Mineras? (in reply to NorCalluthier) 
Alain Faucher transcribed most of Ramon's early recordings including one of the mineras. It's in standard notation only, but a great thing to have in the library.

http://affedis.com/ramon-montoya-arte-clasico-flamenco/

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Ramon Montoya Mineras? (in reply to NorCalluthier) 
As well as available recordings of Montoya playing his Mineras, Paco Peña recorded it in the '80's on his album of Montoya and Ricardo (called something like: "Guitar Music of Ramon Montoya and Niño Ricardo").

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NorCalluthier

 

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RE: Ramon Montoya Mineras---found 'em! (in reply to NorCalluthier) 
Hello Ricardo and Mark,

Someone has put what appears to be all of Ramon Montoya's recordings on youtube---here are links to two versions of his mineras:

https://tinyurl.com/lnkdj5q

https://tinyurl.com/lctf6cw

Chris Carnes was right, David's mineras is essentially Ramon's.

Thanks for your help guys.

Cheers,

Brian
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granjuanillo

 

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RE: Ramon Montoya Mineras? (in reply to NorCalluthier) 
Hi Brian - just saw this - good to hear from you.

Many years ago (around 1972) you let me record a tape of David from a KPFA radio show that had a version of the minera you mention - it is very similar to Montoya's, but David adds a beautiful 'Levantica' melody that Montoya used in his rondeña.

Because you mentioned the minera, when I asked about it in my first lesson with David - in 1972 - he recorded another version of it, which was a bit different. I recorded it on my CD (Cinfución, Juan Moro) - it is called 'Levantica'.

By the way, a few years ago I got the Tamura guitar you sold me back after a 40 year loan to a friend.

best, John
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Paul Magnussen

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RE: Ramon Montoya Mineras? (in reply to granjuanillo) 
Hi Juan,

Long time no see, but I remember you from the days of the Flamenco Society of San Jose, when I was writing for Guitar International. I have lots of photos that include you (and Sara). Here’s one from the Hayward Gallery in 1985:



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granjuanillo

 

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RE: Ramon Montoya Mineras? (in reply to Paul Magnussen) 
wow - a long time ago - good to hear from you - hope all is well. I've been in San Diego for nearly 30 years
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