Your favourite tabs from Affedis

Costs are rising and times are tough.
Please consider a donation to keep this
place going.

Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.

This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.

We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.

You are logged in as Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >>Discussions >>General >>

Page: [1]

Message

<< Newer Topic Older Topic >>

johnnefastis

Posts: 631
Joined: Jan. 10 2012

Your favourite tabs from Affedis

Hi there,

I really want to get hold of a tab of Enrique de Melchor's beautiful Taranta, Vivencias. Affedis has it, and Alain Faucher's tabs are always accurate. But now I am looking I am wondering about getting a couple more tabs to bring the price down and get the freebies.

So any recommendations ? the Paco stuff is not listed so I am not sure if that is an option. I am quite interested in stuff like Manuel Silveria's dance accompaniment for Alegrias, but I need the audio and there's no way I am paying out for a cassette.

Let me know what else is great, I have most of the Encuentro DVDs and some Sabicas, Nino Ricardo, etc so thinking mainly of stuff I would never have come across.

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2013 19:33:57

xirdneH_imiJ

Posts: 1891
Joined: Dec. 2 2006
From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to johnnefastis)

the Paco stuff is still available, just not officially, surely if you email Alain, you can arrange getting those...
the alegría accompaniment tab is really good, if you decide to order, i can send you the mp3...
the rest is totally up to your taste, i always preferred to pay for long and complicated modern pieces, to get as much value for my money as i could...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2013 20:40:19

johnnefastis

Posts: 631
Joined: Jan. 10 2012

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to johnnefastis)

quote:

the alegría accompaniment tab is really good, if you decide to order, i can send you the mp3

Thank you, I may take you up on that, I am playing a lot with dancers at the moment so that could be great.

quote:

rest is totally up to your taste

I know, its a bit of a lame question really but there is just so much stuff there that is actually hard to find audio for so I thought I would ask.

Have you got Ramon Amador's dance accompaniment for Soleá as well ?

Thanks again

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2013 21:51:08

xirdneH_imiJ

Posts: 1891
Joined: Dec. 2 2006
From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to johnnefastis)

not that one, unfortunately...
if someone else does, speak up!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2013 23:46:32

KMMI77

Posts: 1821
Joined: Jul. 26 2009
From: The land down under

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ)

quote:

Have you got Ramon Amador's dance accompaniment for Soleá as well ?

quote:

if someone else does, speak up!

I have the tab and audio. Alain sent me the audio on a cassette when i bought it. It is very muddy live recording but the playing is great IMO. Very solid and traditional stuff. I still use a lot of it today. It's a long solea.

I have the Quique Paredes and Vicente soto bulerias as well. I didn't get a lot out of that one though. I preferred other things.

_____________________________

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2013 12:06:10

eg.czerny

Posts: 57
Joined: Jun. 30 2005

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to KMMI77)

Very timely post.
I have been contemplating getting Ramon Amador's dance accompaniment for Soleá for quite some time now and was about to ask about it.
I love his accompaniment to the Farruco family dancing (Chocolate singing) on the "Flamenco" DVD by Carlos Saura.
Do you (or anyone) know if this is somewhat similar? I was hoping to learn a bit about accompaniment from this transcription. I took a few falsetas from the DVD but would like to learn more. I'm sorry to hear the recording is not that great and a "tape" is somewhat a problem. I would need to get a tape player. A CD would have been much easier. I asked Alain Faucher about putting out a CD or two with all of the private live recordings on it some time ago and he said good idea and he would consider it but I won't hold my breath.
Anyway it's just about time for my annual transcription purchase so if you could clear this up I would appreciate it.
Thanks
As far a the original question goes? What do you like and what would you like to learn? I am a big supporter of Alain Faucher. He does great work. He has done much for the flamenco community.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2013 0:42:26

johnnefastis

Posts: 631
Joined: Jan. 10 2012

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to johnnefastis)

Thanks everyone,

I love most flamenco, but am mainly looking for material that I can play and use so its great to hear that the dance material is good.

A lot of the material on the Affedis site is hard or impossible to track down as audio so thats why I thought I would ask out. A bit of searching on Youtube is helping, just listening this and enjoying it.

and this....

Which I think is this... but the video is pretty clear so les need for tabs
Niño Joselé - Taranta without title
Style: taranta │ Source: Concurso de la Union 1993

But I can't find Niño de Pura - Candelas for example.

Thanks for the tips so far. I have too much choice now.

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 27 2013 12:10:21

KMMI77

Posts: 1821
Joined: Jul. 26 2009
From: The land down under

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to eg.czerny)

quote:

I was hoping to learn a bit about accompaniment from this transcription.

Hey eg.czerny

You will be able to learn some nice and playable general falsetas, and also variations for escobilla. It is 20 min long with plenty of rhythm strumming patterns suitable for dance.

You will also learn solea (alcala) letra structure from the Solea transcription.

_____________________________

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 27 2013 12:38:23

eg.czerny

Posts: 57
Joined: Jun. 30 2005

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to KMMI77)

Thanks for the information. I think I will put it on the list. A long transcription and a tape is pricey but hey it's only money.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 28 2013 0:07:00

machopicasso

Posts: 973
Joined: Nov. 27 2010

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to johnnefastis)

One of the transcriptions available on Faucher's site is listed as: "Gerardo Núñez Bulería, sans titre, Récital public"

Does anyone know if this corresponds (more or less) to a song on one of Gerardo's albums?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2013 11:12:19

mark indigo

Posts: 3625
Joined: Dec. 5 2007

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to machopicasso)

i guess he made transcriptions from tapes or records that have since been deleted and unavailable, but i don't really understand for example why he puts falsetas from completely unavailable old vinyl in the books he has published recently (solea por bulerias/medio and siguiriyas).

some things you can find to download that aren't available on cd, and some things you can find on lp on todocollecion, but some stuff just doesn't seem to exist anywhere.

and then there are the "public recitals" type of things - can't understand why he transcribes from completely obscure unavailable sources

quote:

So any recommendations ?

something you like listening to and want to spend the time learning to play....

_____________________________

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2013 17:34:50

machopicasso

Posts: 973
Joined: Nov. 27 2010

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to mark indigo)

quote:

and then there are the "public recitals" type of things - can't understand why he transcribes from completely obscure unavailable sources

I guess my thoughts on that are:
1) If a "public recital" is that good, then perhaps it's worth preserving and transcribing; and
2) As long as Faucher has an audio copy and is willing to make it available, then I guess there's no problem.

Regarding the latter, though, it'd be nice if he would make a sample available. As it stands, I have no idea if the "public recital" material from Gerardo is more or less the same material as that on the Encuentro DVD.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2013 10:17:53

xirdneH_imiJ

Posts: 1891
Joined: Dec. 2 2006
From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to machopicasso)

it's more or less the same, the falsetas are the same, the orders are different...
it's not a question of making it "available", he offers that upon buying the transcription, but you would want to hear the stuff before buying...(incidentally i bought two of these without having ever heard the original)
this is one of the reasons why i've put youtube links to all the tabs i offer, i think it's helpful in deciding what you want to purchase, and you may also discover new stuff...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2013 17:20:57

mark indigo

Posts: 3625
Joined: Dec. 5 2007

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ)

quote:

you would want to hear the stuff before buying....

exactly!

_____________________________

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2013 18:50:33

machopicasso

Posts: 973
Joined: Nov. 27 2010

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ)

quote:

it's more or less the same, the falsetas are the same, the orders are different...

Thanks. That's very helpful.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2013 9:01:28

Paul Magnussen

Posts: 1805
Joined: Nov. 8 2010
From: London (living in the Bay Area)

RE: Your favourite tabs from Affedis (in reply to mark indigo)

quote:

i don't really understand for example why he puts falsetas from completely unavailable old vinyl in the books he has published recently

What completely unavailable old vinyl would that be?

quote:

can't understand why he transcribes from completely obscure unavailable sources

Well, his tabs have time values on them, so you don’t really need the source.

How do you think the lutenists managed? Or still manage, come to that?

Of course, I don’t deny that having the source is nice, especially if you don’t yet know if the piece is crap or not.

_____________________________

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2013 15:15:10