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Ramon Amira

 

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Ignacio Rozas 
Anyone ever play one of his flamenco guitars? And if so, any opinions.

Thanks –
Ramon

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2012 15:48:11
 
Don Dionisio

 

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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
I knew someone with a flamenco guitar made in the early 1990s by him.
It was a very lightly built guitar with easy action and a nice flamenco sound.
He bought it from Beverly M. in NYC as a used guitar. I really liked it a lot.

I've played several of Rozas' classicals as well and they are great guitars. IMO,
Rozas should be revered as one of the better luthiers in Spain.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2012 16:36:31

C. Vega

 

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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
Flamenco guitars actually made by Rozas under his own label are rather scarce.
I had a blanca with machines that he made in 1998. I bought it new from James Greenberg (Zavaletas) who in turn had bought it directly from Rozas at his shop in Madrid. It was a somewhat smallish instrument, rather like a Santos or Esteso. Very light and responsive. Spruce top, five fan bracing pattern similar to a Ramirez flamenco, French polished. I sold it during a time when I really wasn't playing much at all. I wish now that I had kept it.

For the record, Rozas retired in 2008.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 20 2012 16:52:13
 
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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
A former teacher of mine had a negra that was wonderful! Rare as C. Vega mentioned.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2012 0:32:30
 
Ramon Amira

 

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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
Turns out the guitar in question is an F-1E. Sounds like a student model, probably farmed out. Does that seem to be the case?

Ramon

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2012 2:56:54

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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
Yup.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2012 11:24:41
 
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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
Ignacio M Rozas worked for Jose Ramirez III from 1959 to 1969 making classical and flamenco guitars. He was there when Ramirez changed from spruce to cedar tops for most of the production. Those that he had a major hand in were stamped IM on the heel block. After leaving he worked for Manuel Contreras who had left Ramirez 7 years earlier. In about 198 Rozas opened his own shop in Calle Mayor. He started making 1a and 2a classical and flamenco guitars and I have heard that in a gesture of old fashioned honesty, he stopped signing the 2a models when he farmed out the construction to someone else. Eventually there were no 1a flamencos being produced.

I spend an evening in the shop in the 1990s. It was being minded by a young woman who seemed to have her boyfriend in for the evening. We played several guitars together – none were very good. Through a glass partition we could see Rozas working like a man possessed – it destroyed my preconception that luthiers had an easy life!

I understand that Rozas eventually moved out of the Calle Mayor shop and focussed his own production on classical guitars, while also selling a range of own brand factory produced guitars.

Rob
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2012 11:29:04
 
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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
You thought luthiers have an easy life? When I met my teacher at 16 I asked him about making a living as a guitarmaker. He told me to marry well...

I sold a 68 Ramirez earlier this year that was stamped IM. It is a very good example of that shop in it's prime.

The few Rozas guitars I have seen have all been very nice instruments, big with gorgeous tone. I had a client years ago who had a Rosas classical that he picked out at Beverly Maher's place in NYC. This was early on in my career so I went to his home to study the guitar. As we were talking I asked him what he did for a living and he said he was a writer. He then went on to talk about this book he was working on, something about Geishas in Japan blah blah blah. I was like- Oh thats nice, lets get back to talking about this great guitar. 3 or 4 years later I was in NYC in front of Zabars where the booksellers set up tables and I saw his book, "Memoirs of a Geisha", with the New York Times bestseller accolades emblazoned on the cover.

Last I heard he still has his Rozas and although he always could have afforded any number of uber high end guitars, thats the only one he wants or needs.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2012 12:53:36
 
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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to aarongreen) 
Just to make it clear, I really have great respect for anyone making high quality stuff by hand and trying to make a living out of it.

Jose Ramirez III had a dream team of luthiers working for him in the 50s and 60s including the (then) young Rozas. JR III had a strict system of supervision and I was always amazed with the consistency he got in those days. He started adding serial numbers to the labels in 1967 – starting somewhere in the two thousands to reflect the guitars already produced without numbers. By the end of the 1960s the number had risen to about 4000 – by the end of the 70s it was up to about 14000 – 6 years later 18000 by which time the size had presumably become too embarrassing to continue and the numbering system was abandoned.

I am great fan of the Ramirez cedar flamencos of the late 60’s made in the last years before Rozas left. I am old enough to have played whole bunch of them in the Ramirez workshop. Mine, #2842 JF gave me good service for 25 years – you always know you have got a good guitar when you stop dreaming of buying a better one!

Rob
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 21 2012 16:37:24
 
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RE: Ignacio Rozas (in reply to RobJe) 
quote:

you always know you have got a good guitar when you stop dreaming of buying a better one


So true!!
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