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The young El Payo Humberto!
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Ricardo
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 RE: The young El Payo Humberto! (in reply to kudo)
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ORIGINAL: kudo
i personally think his accompanying is not correct/accurate and also in terms of chord changes in there
I only watched granaina so far and he was dead on, although his guitar was a bit out of tune and he kept trying to fix it. I felt the singer changed the melody a bit to give more clear guide tones which I think is wrong as per tradition, but the guitar accompaniments were correct.
I assume you guys mean the other cantes so I will take some time to check.
Ok Solea de Triana, tough stuff, but he was right with him all the way.
Ok, Taranto he does F# for first line then responds D7. It's ok, though most others touch on G, or go right into D or D7. It's totally deliberate though and he is totally with the singer which is what is important. The next cante is Levantica I think, and dead on accompaniment.
Malagueña DEAD on. (for you nerds with an ear, when the singer gives the 7th of V the guitar responds to I chord. EXample he sings Bb and the guitar goes to F. That is the way most malagueñas are, and Taranto is similar.)
Need I check the rest? I will....
Ok tango piyayo no problem, colombianas too, 2 chords easy stuff. Caña was good. Fandango next to last vid was fantastic, he is lucky to have such a complete cantaor to work with. And he plays well, he really knows the cante. The buleria was good too. The only thing I did not like was his treatment of compas in the Alegria/cantiñas but every thing else is pretty exemplary.
I recommend instead of critic this guy Kudo you actually do your best to learn from this, it's pretty clear he knows his stuff.
Ricardo
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Date May 14 2012 14:03:05
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Ricardo
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RE: The young El Payo Humberto! (in reply to mezzo)
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Are you talking about the one he gave at 3'14? IMO he made a mistake here coz it sounds like a resolving one but the cante melody has not resolve yet. After that hit he clearly search for the appropriate one
Ah no man sorry. He did the same exact thing earlier (first line of verse, your point was the repeat, 3rd line or compas if you will) it is deliberate. As I stated, other players play G or jumb directly to D. The levante cantes are a challenge because as I stated, the singers sing the dominant 7th of the V chord, yet the guitar moves to the I chord, or rather your ear WANTS the IV chord (making the note sung tonic rather then Domiant 7th). I often wondered if this was always a mistake of early accompanists, but the further back I look in time, the earliest recordings of cante are all done the same way. Get a compilation of levante cantes including malagueñas and verdiales etc, it sounds strange to play a chord that does not have the note signaled by the singer, but it is long standing part of tradition. With most of the fandangos, roots or thirds of the tonos are given by the voice and it makes more sense than the levante cantes.
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