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Obsolete compas patterns???
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xirdneH_imiJ
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Joined: Dec. 2 2006
From: Budapest, now in Southampton
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RE: Obsolete compas patterns??? (in reply to nospoonboy)
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so here's another can of worms, which could evolve into a huge heated discussion... i tend to agree with the reviewer: "No one in flamenco ever heard of any of these other people who have written flamenco guitar books." - except that there are exceptions, Paco Pena as he mentions, but there's also Manolo Sanlúcar for example... compás patterns and finger usage being obsolete, well not obsolete, but surely, less frequently used as most young players tend to copy more modern players who preferred different techniques...of course, lovers of the traditional toque take offense, but there's no need to, the word usage is harsh, but essentially is not very far from the truth...
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Date Sep. 10 2011 20:33:45
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Harry
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From: Montreal, Canada
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RE: Obsolete compas patterns??? (in reply to nospoonboy)
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quote:
I fell in love with the playing of Pepe Habichuela, but I am not yet able to play his pieces. So I have been looking for music to get me to that level. I don't want to learn "wrong" ways of playing that I will need to UNLEARN. You are very very correct in this. You must learn the right way from the start as much as possible. So often when we are learning and working in isolation as many of us are, you will develop bad habits. Keep things very simple at first, focus on learning how to hammer out compas using chords mostly. Even if you can play a difficult falseta because you have the dexterity, don't do it until you feel the compas deeply. You need a good teacher to show you the technique, and I recommend listening to Ramon Montoya, Sabicas, Nino Ricardo, early Paco and then take it from there. It is crucial to listen to a lot of old cante so you can hear just a singer, guitarist and some palmas. Pepe Habicuela is right at the crossroads of modern and traditional. He plays many modernized falsetas of Montoya and others. But so does everyone. An interesting chord change in many of Nino Ricardo's recordings has been used to explore many abstract ideas by other guitarists such as Paco etc...You often only realize this when you learn how to play these falsetas and see the organic development of flamenco guitar. It is ridiculous to dismiss flamenco before Paco and Camaron, and anyone starting to play flamenco guitar should probably stay away from Paco's repertoire for the first few years. I remember listening to it daily, but still trying to learn the basics from Montoya and Nino Ricardo recordings.
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